In a rather dramatic departure from the norm, instead of hosting the Fenzi Dog Sports Podcast (well, in addition to it) this week I was interviewed FOR a podcast — for Drinking from the Toilet with Hannah Branigan!

During our conversation we talk about:

1. Why should dog trainers bother marketing?
2. Why talking about marketing makes Hannah feel icky… and what to do about it.
3. How good marketing is actually a lot like good dog training, and so it’s maybe not so scary…

I’d love for you to give it a listen! I’ve embedded it below, or you can locate it in the podcast app of your choice by searching for “Drinking from the Toilet.”

If this piques your interest, there are also still spots open in my online class through the Fenzi Dog Sports Academy — Business End of the Dog: Marketing for Pet Professionals.

I’d love to see some of you there!